You should watch the final episode of Rick Burns "New York." For that matter you should watch and enjoy the whole thing. It's brilliant. It will in it's final chapter give you the most prosaic and perhaps therefore believable explanation of the collapse of WTC: paper not jet fuel.

And after rueful interviews with the men who built it, and the chief engineer (Japanese) whose idea was to build a supporting frame exterior to the building to allow for maximum interior space -- you'll have at the very least two highly credible explanations of why buildings like this could pancake. And oh yes, steel can indeed be induced to melt or buckle at temperatures supposed to have been reached by jet fuel aided by lots of paper.

Cheers, Hugh

Consider the logic. They have to presuppose they know what we're afraid of to begin with, then they have to concoct some wild theory about why we don't want to know what they regard as truth.

It's absurd on the face of it, and speaks to a paranoia that can strike in any direction at any time.

Best, Michael!

So what freedoc suggests this, if any?

Cheers, Hugh

I will cut to the chase as to what I have found behind your musings on 9/11 and the rest of the so called "mistakes" of the Bush administration. I don't see them as being "mistakes".

Perhaps they were more problematic than the administration would have hoped, but only in the sense it made re-election more difficult. And with the election seeming to have been won in Ohio in spite of strong tampering evidence, I can't be sure of that either.

Two very flawed elections are the reality of eight years of Bush jr. Subliminal providence for sure but, seeing the very bold line, I find his tenure falls far short of divine.

As all who read here can attest, I recommend going to freedocumentaries.org for easy access to some good videos to get you going.

You sound like you already are on to some of this info. Cut loose.

I guess you say that the 9/11 commission did its level best to hold Condi's feet to the fire. She was frustratingly nimble at evading responsibility or at best spreading it around.

But we did have terrorists in Minnesota taking avionics lessons, we had an alarming August 6th PDF, and I can't help but wonder why someone couldn't have imagined that air marshals (which we now deploy) wouldn't have been a prudent and simple counter-measure.

My simple question: how hard would it have been to take the numerous alarms seriously, and to quietly have placed one armed serviceman aboard strategically relevant flights?

Condi Rice has never been held to account for failing to listen to what Richard Clarke and others were telling her. No, in keeping with this administration she was promoted.

A quiet deployment of Air Marshals and a hardening of cockpit doors could have prevented everything. Why hasn't this been laid at her feet. It was in fact (over her protestations) imagined. It was documented by FBI field offices --- it was not a scenario as she claimed that was impossible to predict. Everything Richard Clarke put before her suggested it.

I'd say at the very least salary revocation would be well justified -- not to mention a thorough investigation.

But here's something to think about since were revisiting the Iraq war's origins.

This is a big what if, but it's a real and possible what if that has troubled me since 9/11.... Imagine that our National Security Adviser in August of 2001, Condi Rice had actually taken Richard Clarke's warnings seriously.

The PDF's at the time could have been written in red ink for all the alarms they were raising --their import was, we're in immanent danger.

Now with the current debate about about the lack of air marshals on domestic flights, I'm going to raise the big "what if" again. Would it have been such a stretch at the time, in August of 2001, to take Richard Clarke and the PDF's seriously enough to quietly, remembering that your title (condi) is National Security Adviser, to have quietly and strategically placed air marshals on domestic and incoming flights. Not enough air marshals? No problem, take one branch of the armed forces and quietly deploy them on suspect routes. How simple this would have been. How profoundly history might have been changed.

But it was August, GW was at his ranch and there was brush to be cleared.

At worst, if nothing happened, Condi might have been called an alarmist, or an American hero for the ages.