Sorry its taken awhile to reply but I tend to wander away into other aspects of life.

Thanks for the info on Gravel-pederasty-war connections. Strangely interesting stuff!

Coming from a background of Greek Classics pretty much limited to reading The Iliad and The Odyssey (can't remember) and The Apology (can't forget), then, throw in the recent movie Troy, and, as you can see, it is a subject my street education seriously lacks.

To be sure gentlemen I note your perceptions and concerns, however I do find elements of the Gravel Platform to be intriguing (National Initiative for Democracy) .

Not being one to be pigeon-holed, I am actively pursuing a over-view of this election as I am, as usual, left watching the countries choices reduced to "bought and paid for". Therefore my real interest lies in "fixin the system", rather than, "who is our saviour" in this mess.

Are there "lessors of two evils" when it comes to the front runners? Probably, But, I have to say, Ralph Nader holds the greatest potential for real change as well as the highest degree of integrity I see on the stage today.

Liberals and Conservatives be damned!

Hey Mitch,

HDYDT?

How did you do that

AWCI?

And why can't I?

Sue

[I had worn my John Lennon "Power to the People"
t-shirt in honor of his earlier video playing off of that song.]

I put on my USS Abraham Lincoln, CVN-72 cap to write this comment.

[I checked out the Mike Gravel website since I spent some time with him on Monday and like his spunk.]

You can read my views on Mike Gravel here.

Cheers,

I posted a http://freedocumentaries.org/film.php?id=198
(I haven't watched this one yet but it looked historically relevant to the discussion above) link on Frosty's blog about "W's defining moment" earlier tonite so to be sure I am trying to keep up with expectations all around.

THEN, I checked out the Mike Gravel website since I spent some time with him on Monday and like his spunk.

I had worn my John Lennon "Power to the People"
t-shirt in honor of his earlier video playing off of that song. He said the kid (15 I think) who does his videos had done another and it was coming out any day. Damn!! This one blows me away. Check it out for yourselves. The kid is creative. Don't miss the very last little video in the line of videos below. It is easy to miss because it is placed two spaces after the last easily visible one of Jerry Ford. This one also rings of true to the post above and shows Dr. King was a complex man and not just anybodies poster-child. Hence, a bullet.

Speak of the... welcome back Alpha! This site is for you, enjoy it, its a unique form of blowback.

http://www.gravel2008.us/

Just remember.. this ain't no disco.

Mitch thanks for reminding me what a beautiful and tragic species we are.

Have a nice day!

Hmmm. How's this for progress?

Cheers,

I thought you would appreciate it..and besides in a weird round about way it was on topic...sorta. : )

Now you know damn well that I became a Republican in support of Ron Paul and NOT to get the nomination for McCain, even though I agree with about 99% of his policies. If it weren't for his support of the Iraq occupation and threats against Iran, I'd definitely cast my vote for him.

There are some things worth protesting "too much." In my book, a person's devotion to a socially conscious if somewhat overly zealous pastor is not one of them.

alpha,

Back to your old modus operandi again I see. Maybe you should take a break from scouring the Internet for damning evidence to support your hatred of Muslims and try to stay on topic for once.

A report posted on Islam Watch, a site run by Muslims who oppose intolerant teachings and hatred for unbelievers, exposes a prominent Islamic cleric and lawyer who support extreme punishment for non-Muslims — including killing and rape.

A question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin in an East London mosque asks why Allah would tell Muslims to kill and rape innocent non-Muslims, including their wives and daughters, according to Islam Watch.

"Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet," the Imam says, according to the report. "If you don't believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain."

The lawyer, Anjem Choudary, backs up the Imam's position, saying that all Muslims are innocent.

Click here to watch the interview with Islamic lawyer Anjem Choudary.

"You are innocent if you are a Muslim," Choudary tells the BBC. "Then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are not a Muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God."

Choudary said he would not condemn a Muslim for any action.

"As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters," Choudary said. "I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim."

Sweet!!! are these guys something or what??