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		<title>by: reckless G</title>
		<link>http://www.aspenpost.net/2008/05/12/this-old-house/#comment-49703</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>After my conversation with Michael on CON GAMES this morning, I get the impression I left him and possibly the audience, confused. Maybe I’m a little too cynical for the “hope and change” clique.

As I said, I never claimed I was going to vote for John McCain, I said I support his becoming president as I don’t believe the Democrats will truly give us the change everyone is hoping for. It will only temporarily slow the momentum of the current trend of insanity and greed, while a McCain presidency will speed up the process, thus creating the opportunity for real change.

Yes McCain’s presidency would mean more suffering and loss for us little folk. So what I was positing was whether the suffering and loss might be a better catalyst for change than Obama’s rhetoric of hope. I don’t believe in leaving it up to our leaders to effect change. Great social and economic change has always been the result of grassroots movements. The change trickles up, where the pressure from enough citizen activists finally causes a law to be passed, or overturned, or amended.

To expect that Obama is going to get into office, end the war, bring peace to the Middle East, restore our constitutional rights, solve our financial crisis, give us all affordable health care, and make America a beacon of hope to the world once again is just plain unrealistic. He’s going to be subject to the same influence and control by the lobbyists of the mega-corporations as the last five presidents.

Do you really think that Halliburton is going to stand by and let him put a stop to their war profiteering? Do you think the pharmaceutical and insurance companies are going to stand by and let him reform our health care system? Do you think the oil companies are going to allow him to put real effort into renewable energy research, and pass environmental regulations? Please!

The only way to stop this destructive trend toward fascism is for the whole house of cards to come crashing down on our heads. Only then will we be ready and willing to make the kind of real meaningful changes that America needs to undergo. We need campaign finance reform, third party involvement, stricter regulations on corporate entities and operations, free and independent media. We need to take control of our energy needs and make a break from our dependence on the products of Exxon-Mobile, and Shell et al. These are things that aren’t going to come from the top like manna from heaven to feed the masses. They’re going to have to be done by us.

But people just aren’t mad enough yet. They’re still too comfortable, too lazy. It isn’t worth making the effort to change, and it won’t be until formerly middle-class Americans are living in tent cities and standing in bread lines. Then you’ll see some real protest and the impetus for a dynamic pulling up of our boot straps.

The main point of my post was that an Obama presidency will only delay the inevitable. The question is, do we want to endure a long slow fall, or get it over with quickly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After my conversation with Michael on CON GAMES this morning, I get the impression I left him and possibly the audience, confused. Maybe I’m a little too cynical for the “hope and change” clique.</p>
<p>As I said, I never claimed I was going to vote for John McCain, I said I support his becoming president as I don’t believe the Democrats will truly give us the change everyone is hoping for. It will only temporarily slow the momentum of the current trend of insanity and greed, while a McCain presidency will speed up the process, thus creating the opportunity for real change.</p>
<p>Yes McCain’s presidency would mean more suffering and loss for us little folk. So what I was positing was whether the suffering and loss might be a better catalyst for change than Obama’s rhetoric of hope. I don’t believe in leaving it up to our leaders to effect change. Great social and economic change has always been the result of grassroots movements. The change trickles up, where the pressure from enough citizen activists finally causes a law to be passed, or overturned, or amended.</p>
<p>To expect that Obama is going to get into office, end the war, bring peace to the Middle East, restore our constitutional rights, solve our financial crisis, give us all affordable health care, and make America a beacon of hope to the world once again is just plain unrealistic. He’s going to be subject to the same influence and control by the lobbyists of the mega-corporations as the last five presidents.</p>
<p>Do you really think that Halliburton is going to stand by and let him put a stop to their war profiteering? Do you think the pharmaceutical and insurance companies are going to stand by and let him reform our health care system? Do you think the oil companies are going to allow him to put real effort into renewable energy research, and pass environmental regulations? Please!</p>
<p>The only way to stop this destructive trend toward fascism is for the whole house of cards to come crashing down on our heads. Only then will we be ready and willing to make the kind of real meaningful changes that America needs to undergo. We need campaign finance reform, third party involvement, stricter regulations on corporate entities and operations, free and independent media. We need to take control of our energy needs and make a break from our dependence on the products of Exxon-Mobile, and Shell et al. These are things that aren’t going to come from the top like manna from heaven to feed the masses. They’re going to have to be done by us.</p>
<p>But people just aren’t mad enough yet. They’re still too comfortable, too lazy. It isn’t worth making the effort to change, and it won’t be until formerly middle-class Americans are living in tent cities and standing in bread lines. Then you’ll see some real protest and the impetus for a dynamic pulling up of our boot straps.</p>
<p>The main point of my post was that an Obama presidency will only delay the inevitable. The question is, do we want to endure a long slow fall, or get it over with quickly?
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		<title>by: Mitch Mulhall</title>
		<link>http://www.aspenpost.net/2008/05/12/this-old-house/#comment-49481</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 05:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Reckless G's unwavering support of John McCain? Be careful what you wish for, G.
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Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reckless G's unwavering support of John McCain? Be careful what you wish for, G.<br />
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<p>Cheers,
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