Denver, Colorado–Channel 9 News anchor Cheryl Preheim announced Sunday night, July 5, 2009, that traffic through the Eisenhower Tunnel on I-70 set new records or near-records for holiday travel. An astounding 47,200 plus cars rolled through the tunnel in one day on a return trip from the 4th of July holiday.
However, since I happened to be one of those folks traveling through the tunnel, you might appreciate, as the late Paul Harvey once said, “The rest of the story!”
By 11:00 a.m. Sunday morning, east bound drivers, trying to beat the ‘rush hour’, which normally occurs around 1:00 p.m., creped along as the tunnel aspirants’ vehicles backed up five miles to stop and go, bumper to bumper traffic. By 1:00 p.m., the line backed down the mountain beyond Silverthorne and oftentimes, traffic slowed to a crawl mode all the way back to Frisco. We found ourselves inching along like a bunch of ants in a funeral dirge. Off to the side, a dozen cars suffered overheating while their drivers stood in torment watching radiators boil over. Quite a few folks back-ended other drivers to add yet another ‘impact’ to the rat-race on I-70: too many cars, too many short fuses, human road rage, accidents and many motorcyclists riding the breakdown lane to beat the traffic.
After passing through the tunnel and racing eastbound again, traffic backed up for miles at Georgetown, Downie and Idaho Springs. What should have taken everyone 70 minutes to get home on the expressway, took three hours of dangerous stop and go driving. Many people hopped off the freeway to the frontage road in Georgetown, but that too, became a case of gridlock traffic.
I heard more curse words, more yelling and more futile one-finger salute hand signals than I’ve seen at a Rockies’ game!
Once they reached Floyd Hill, everyone gunned their engines on the three lanes of traffic to make Mario Andretti proud!
Instead of a wondrous holiday weekend, everyone in that Interstate traffic jam suffered incredible frustration and exasperation. They drove with frayed nerves and the whole weekend ended with aggravation and annoyance.
What astounded me stemmed from the fact that the ‘rush hour’ started at 11:00 a.m. with people attempting to return home to beat the rush by cutting short their weekend. But they suffered the ‘rush hour’ at 11:00 a.m. on Sunday! Therefore, no one could ‘beat’ the traffic by ruining their entire Sunday retreat in the mountains. During the ski season, the weather factor makes for a whole new dynamic in accidents and danger as well as wasted time.
As I sat in traffic stewing and fuming in my own fumes, I wondered, “Why are we doing this to ourselves? Why have we allowed Colorado to add 1.5 million people in the past 15 years? Why are we on course to add another five million people within four decades? How will we ever solve our traffic problems? How will Denver solve its Brown Cloud problems that ensure that everyone breathes toxic air with every breath? How will we solve our ominous water shortages facing us? How will we solve ‘quality of life’ issues?
We won’t, unless we change course!
ONE LOOK AT CALIFORNIA SHOWS COLORADO’S FUTURE
Why do we promote, and cheer growth and expansion to the detriment of our ‘quality of health’; ‘quality of life’ and ‘quality of emotions’? Why do we race toward water shortages by expanding our population? Why do we encourage air pollution and gridlock traffic? Why do our leaders expect and protect the ‘growth paradigm’ that creates all of our problems?
I encourage you to write the TV and radio stations in Colorado to demand they address a viable and sustainable future for Colorado. You might suggest ideas for them to entertain.
craigsilverman@clearchannel.com
gregoryhollenback@clearchannel.com
aaron@harbertvcom
Ask them to investigate:
Brian Maass: 303 830 6472
Rick Salinger: 303 830 6484
John_Ferrugia@thedenverchannel.com
Ron Zappolo fox31news@fox31.com
Go to their websites and give them your thoughts on what actions we must take to stop unending and disastrous growth in Colorado. Try on a few of these ideas:
Actions and results:
Moratorium on all new home building and business expansion.
This would stabilize population that would stabilize traffic and people congestion.
Refurbish and rebuild infrastructure around the state to bring a higher quality of roads and rebuilt inner cities.
This would allow excellent roads, excellent upkeep, modernize what we have and create greater efficiency.
Build more open space and quality parks for spiritual and mental sanity within Denver and other cities to become a model for other states.
This would help people relax, enjoy nature, fulfill their spiritual need to touch nature which would mean less Aleve headaches and road rage since you actually arrived home 30 minutes earlier daily.
Concentrate on cleaning up the toxic Brown Cloud we all breathe with every breath.
Such actions would allow us to move toward healthier and cleaner air to breathe.
We would no longer be able to ‘see’ the air we breathe. Our lungs would clear as well as our minds as we once again served oxygen to our brains.
Get to know your neighbors!
Instead of cursing, flipping the bird and texting to someone you barely know other than electronically, you could actually talk to your neighbors and create community.
Let’s propose a “Colorado Sustainable Population Policy” that would become the envy of the world.
Such a policy would bring a new paradigm shift to a stable, energy efficient and rich legacy for Colorado and the world.
Instead o chasing our tails mindlessly like a dog, let’s act with reason and visionary solutions.
Finally, we would enjoy enough water, pure air; unhurried and sane lie along with the ability to travel to the mountains in winter and summer with ease and grace to enjoy our recreation periods instead of bumper to bumper that makes us want to slice our collective throats.
Does that make sense or what?! If it does, and it does make sense, send it to all your friends, to every city in the nation and speak up about a new way to deal with our congested cities! Your kids will thank you! Let’s promote a “US Sustainable Population Policy” the envy of the world!
Sooner or later, we will arrive at population balance. Either by our own or nature’s hand! Which would you rather see for your children?
View the movie: www.blindspotdoc.com for a compelling understanding of why we must change our growth paradigm to stable and sustainable future.
Most important: “US Sustainable Population Policy” and “US Sustainable Immigration Policy of 100,000 Annually”. Hint: legal and illegal immigration constitute the main population-drives creating our environmental and demographic nightmare.
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To take action: First and foremost, join www.numbersusa.com and become one of nearly a million Americans making impact with pre-written faxes and phone calls to change immigration policies toward a stable future. Bi-partisan and highly effective.
Second, join www.thesocialcontract.com for up to date information via the Social Contract Quarterly for $25.00 a year. Exceptional publication to keep you informed.
www.fairus.org ; www.vdare.com ; www.alipac.us ; www.firecoalition.com ; www.cairco.org ; www.limitstogrowth.com ; www.capsweb.org ; www.populationmedia.org ; www.worldpopulationbalance.org; www.cis.org
Visit this site for a rendition of Colorado Governor Lamm’s speech: “How to Destroy America”
http://usawakeup.org/HowToDestroyAmerica.htm
Please visit Annie Leonard at www.storyofstuff.com for a compelling and highly interesting 20 minute video concerning our high consumption, highly wasteful and unsustainable society. She educates and provides avenues for you to make a difference.
Visit this web site by Chris Martenson: http://www.chrismartenson.com/environmental_data
In Colorado: visit www.soprisfoundation.org for information how you can network with like-minded folks to create a more sustainable future for Colorado and other states.
View CNN’s “Planet in Peril” with Anderson Cooper and Lisa Ling:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2008/planet.in.peril/
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA: D.C.: (202)224-2854
CHICAGO, IL: (312)886-3506
SPRINGFIELD, IL: (217)492-5089
MARION, IL.: (618)997-2402
MOLINE, IL.: (309)736-1217
PLEASE FORWARD THIS EMAIL
President-Elect Obama created a new email form on his change.gov website. He wants Americans to tell him their story. Samples below.
OBAMA WANTS TO HEAR THE PLIGHT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Why not write President-Elect Obama and tell him how illegal aliens have affected you in your community.
EMAIL FORM AN AMERICAN MOMENT – TO BARACK OBAMA
http://change.gov/page/s/yourstory
FROM OBAMA’S CHANGE.COM WEBSITE
http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/an_american_moment/
An American Moment
Books to read: “The Long Emergency” by James Howard Kunstler
“Peak Everything” by Richard Heinberg
“Too Many People” by Lindsey Grant
Become a member of “Frosty’s Press Agent Corps” whereby you volunteer a few hours to send out emails to top TV and radio hosts to offer top speakers on America’s overpopulation crisis driven by unending immigration. Email frostyw@juno.com and receive two informational letters showing you exactly what to do.
Roy Beck’s “IMMIGRATION BY THE NUMBERS” is the single best educational appreciation of America’s future if we allow ourselves to add another 100 million people. Just click on this site for the most sobering experience of your children’s future.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=roy+beck&hl=en
Roy Beck gives a graphic presentation of our fate if we continue to allow legal and illegal immigration to swamp this country. If you have children, you will be particular unnerved at their fate. I know Roy Beck personally and his integrity and knowledge stand at the top. Pass this web site 14 minute video far and wide across America to educate everyone you know. We either stop this human tsunami or the future of this country will be much like Rome’s. We must, as a nation and a civilization, move to secure our country from this massive, unrelenting population overload from a line that never ends. This will be the most compelling 14 minute video of your life.
Once you see it, go to my web site for action items www.frostywooldridge.com and join www.numbersusa.com to become a weekly faxer of pre written letters and join the phone calling teams.
Bob Woodruff of ABC asked input from all citizens concerning the future of our planet. Go to www.earth2100.tv for a sobering reality check as to what we face and to what I have been writing about for the past 20 years. Our ‘window’ to change to a balanced population and non-polluting energy diminishes every day we listen to irresponsible media and thus ignore the blatant symptoms manifesting all over America and the planet.
From: Frosty Wooldridge
This three minute interview with Adam Schrager on “Your Show” May 4, 2008, NBC Channel 9 News, addresses the ramifications of adding 120 million people to USA in 35 years and six million people to Colorado as to water shortages, air pollution, loss of farmland, energy costs and degradation of quality of life. In the interview, Frosty Wooldridge explains the ramifications of adding 120 million people to the USA in 35 years. He advances new concepts such as a “Colorado Carrying Capacity Policy”; “Colorado Environmental Impact Policy”; “Colorado Water Usage Policy”; “Colorado Sustainable Population Policy”. Nationally, the USA needs a “National Sustainable Population Policy” to determine the carrying capacity of this nation for the short and long term. Wooldridge is available for interviews on radio and TV having interviewed on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and FOX.
Go to: www.frostywooldridge.com and click on “Audio/Video” tab
Frosty Wooldridge has bicycled across six continents – from the Arctic to the South Pole – as well as six times across the USA, coast to coast and border to border. In 2005, he bicycled from the Arctic Circle, Norway to Athens, Greece. He presents “The Coming Population Crisis in America: and what you can do about it” to civic clubs, church groups, high schools and colleges. He works to bring about sensible world population balance at www.frostywooldridge.com
You had me until:
[Let’s propose a “Colorado Sustainable Population Policy” that would become the envy of the world.]
I wasn’t born in Colorado (were you?) and I would sure have hated to be told I couldn’t immigrate to Carbondale from my native California because there was a quota.
My husband and I have been here for twelve years and last year we finally convinced our son, his wife and our granddaughter to move to Carbondale. Oops! That’s three more immigrants just last year. If your Sustainable Population Policy were in place, would the government have kept out my family?
I don’t think I like where this is going.
Mother Nature doesn’t care where you think my theme is going, because, with an endless population expansion in Colorado and the USA, you won’t have any say when we run out of water, food, energy and resources to maintain your life. It’s called overshoot, exceeding carrying capacity, climate destabilization, water shortages, food shortages, species extinction. Instead of ‘flat earth’ thinking, I invite you to deal with reality not your emotions. Colorado cannot keep growing. It cannot maintain another 10, 20 or 30 million people. At some point, either humans or Nature will stop all immigrants. Over 18 million humans starve to death annually in 2009. At some point, if you continue your human expansion activities, such deaths will visit Colorado in huge numbers. You’re invited to shift paradigms to meet the realities of the 21st century. Instead of bucking up again Mother Nature to get your ass or your children’s rear ends kicked, better we engage a “Colorado Sustainable Population Policy” before Nature does it for us, rather brutally! FW
Good work Frosty,
Although all may not like everything you propose the debate and especially your focus on solutions is what I like most. Nothing will be solved without focus first and you are the tip of the spear of awareness. Keep the faith!
Star Eagle,
Thank you. It’s better that we create a stable US population policy so we won’t have to restrict anyone. With a stable population, we will all enjoy the freedom to move within our country. If we keep our current immigration-driven unrelenting population expansion, we’re all facing a very restricted future. I find it almost astounding that readers like Sue Gray cannot think beyond the immediate, but only think of herself and this moment. That’s what got China and India into the mess they are in today. It’s simply not sustainable to continue growth paradigms. We cannot use our emotions to make it better, but we can use our minds and logic to create a sustainable future. I’m simply raising the questions and creating the debate. Thanks, Frosty
Oh! You weren’t talking about restricting people like us…I get it now. You just want to keep out “certain types,” if ya know what I mean.
Sue Gray,
I pity stupid, inept and arrogant people who simply cannot comprehend their own lack of understanding. We’re facing a most unpleasant future in this society because so many are so dumb. At this rate we will add 100 million people in 30 years but you don’t understand what faces your own children. We face water shortages, climate destabilization, energy crisis, destroyed oceans, air pollution, species extinction and worse, yet too many continue their trite little lives without understanding. It’s maddening for those of us with brains. FW
FW;
If every lawn were to revert to desert or alpine desert or that water used to grow an edible landscape across the country. If every lumbering big SUV were replaced with an ultra high mileage vehicle and every person that could ride a bike to work did, and all buildings had mandatory solar roofs and wind turbines except helipads on hospitals, and every diet was organic soybean based; the problems you speak of would be very seriously mitigated. Certainly food, water and air pollution — problems all, would be reduced to a very significant degree. Yet this country does nothing regarding those issues because we have a culture based on the entitlement to waste, to be ignorant and to be proud to be American. Throw in the xenophobic bigotry and you have it – the ultimate recipe for American failure.
Calling Sue Gray and others like her, including my self trite, stupid, inept and arrogant is neither asking questions or creating debate — except in your mind. This reminiscent of McGarry, attacking my punctuation and grammar in an f-ing blog. You want solutions, take a look at what is in the first paragraph, find something better, add to it and ask people for some of their ideas, refine it. But please don’t pretend to propose moving back to California, Maine, Florida or Iowa as a solution. You and McGarry are similar, in that you serve up mutiple symptoms of complex problems, and exclude everthing, but your agenda as the silver bullet solution. That loudmouth pansy was embarassed into silence by my little itty bitty wife and Mitch Mulhall. Hopefully you can do better and refrain from insulting people in a personal way – the more educated would call that ad hominem.
So for your information FW, what you seek is the situation that lead to Logan’s Run — how old are you? That is a solution. Are you ready to volunteer your resource using, so you can help America preserve the tradition of fat sluggo simpletons driving around gas guzzlers? Heated driveways, McFatburgers, sacks of fries and veritable buckets of soda pop, research by listening for their opinions from Limbaugh and watching Fox propaganda, and literacy restricted to directions for wiring up an X-box, blah blah blah…. This country will have to evolve from it’s cultural luddite mentality, and the pride exuding from those handed jobs and compensation, while being relative idiots compared to that compensation.
This country needs to stop hating immigrants and people of color, and start educating them, since there appears to such resistance to education in a considerable fraction, among those whose physical morphology is something you would prefer to associate with. If you had brains, this would be clear. Do you think your ditto head allies are gonna start accepting proposed solutions, to say nothing of seeking solutions.
Better living through chemistry, the solution to pollution is dilution, throw it away and give someone a job, there’s more at the store, hate everyday and pray on Sunday, that won’t work this is America, I gotta right, the business of government is business. OK some comprehend it and some don’t. A lot can be done to mitigate the problem and even solve it. Of course compensation parity in the NAFTA countries with uniform standards of excellence in healthcare, pollution worker safety and yes allowing unions would bring much of the immigration you detest to a halt.
China and India will humble this country long before mother nature decides to commit an act of infanticide on her dysfunctional culturally delusional spawn. She can wait.
Its a numbers game pure and simple.
I back Frosty 1000%
get these F&*^$#* illegals out NOW.
http://www.rense.com
Illegals Costing US Taxpayers
More Than Iraq War
2-4-8
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cisorg/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cisorg/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts..cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12 The National Policy Institute, “estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.”http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. “The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States”. http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
Total cost is a whooping… $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!
If this doesn’t bother you then just delete the message, but on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, then forward it.
and bravo for your article here
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty481.htm
INFO,
Lets stipulate that keeping America as “white” as possible is one of your goals or ideas. Lets further stipulate that the cost isn’t 338.3 billion per year but 500 billion per year. You see I want to give you plenty of room.
What exactly is wrong with having Mexico raise its’ standards to at least a rough parity to that of the USA/Canada. You people just keep trying to violate the very fundamental rules of Adam Smith and all tenets of capitalism. Almost without exception, the immigration is driven by economic reasons. The Oligarchy of Plutocrats ru(i)ning Mexico have no financial incentive to be responsible in administering Mexico — they already OWN it. NAFTA was a perfect pressure relief valve in getting rid of extra population that would have demands, demands on land, healthcare, education, wage/compensation, environmental standards, and most importantly, political power demands. Obrador would have won that last election if the Mexicans here voted there.
This country’s insatiable demand for black market labor and consumable contraband, is being answered generously, via illegal immigration.
To sum up in Mexico; The oligarchy of plutocrats, and our domestic demands for the services provided, by the black market trade drive the entire process.
edward, illegal immigration has nothing to do with the color of someones skin. there are 12 million + americans that are unemployed right now. i dont know the numbers that have lost there house but the numbers are large. addressing illegals in this country is going to be the #1 issue this country is going to face in the near future as the economy tanks (its nowhere near the bottom.. just look at the # of arm and option arm mortages that are set to reset over the next 2 years.)
also there is more “change” you can believe in… if you think the population need controlling.
John Holdren (Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology) wrote a book called “ecoscience” in that book he proposed the following:
• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation’s drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” — in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.
these are the published ideas of the person in charge of science policy in America RIGHT NOW.
its a good thing none of the “czars” aka cabinet level posts need senate confirmation.
WOW Jonny BRAVO
took the words right out of my mouth, it has nothing to do with RACE.
Ol Ed is using the red herring tactic
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Its not only the tax burden but the criminal element that illegals bring to this country, This unacceptable.
Thousands of Illegal Aliens Preying on Children
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/21658.html
Top officials at the Department of Homeland Security had announced that arrests during the first two years of Operation Predator, an initiative aimed at foreign nationals who prey on children, have exceeded 6,000.
With federal, state and local law enforcement working together, the initiative has resulted in 6,085 child predator arrests throughout the country — an average of roughly 250 arrests per month and eight arrests per day.
“We are seeing an alarming number of illegal aliens with criminal records for everything from homicides to rapes of children as young as three years of age,” states former NYPD Detective Sid Francis, who investigated sex crimes in New York City.
Research in the area of child pedators is disturbing and, at times, out and out shocking.
“The illegal immigration problem is allowing hundreds of thousands of criminal aliens to invade our nation and kill, maim, rob and abuse our citizens, ” warns the one of the vice presidents of the 14,000-member National Association of Chiefs of Police. Research revealed that in one 9-month period the federal government arrested over 100,000 criminal aliens. These arrests do not include arrests made by state and local law enforcement.
Det. Francis adds that our political leaders and the mainstream news media practically ignore this issue and pro-llegal immigration advocates resort to name-calling to silence anyone who attempts to sound the alarm.
What makes this immigration debate difficult is when some refuse to see beyond their noses it is not about “certain types” if you mean “white”, red, yellow, black, Jew, Muslim etc, for many/most of us it is pure and simple economics!!!
The only “certain types” I am against are illegal immigrants. I am in no way against a legal immigration policy.
I know Frosty harps about a no immigration policy but that is simply debate for the future in the context of a legal immigration policy.
Now the real debate should be about the economic issues that bring these masses across our borders and if we were as brilliant as we think we are that would be our focus NOT someones color or “certain types”, whatever that supposedly means.
I don’t think it is rocket science to see that the so called economic genius’s leading this financial debacle are nothing more than the players of the past leading us over the cliff and into the raging seas below.
Take the time to see for yourselves the real masters controlling our collective (certain types”, white”, red, yellow, black, Jew, Muslim etc) if you want knowledge to base your arguments. Yes, it will take some effort as the below link is not a 2 min google bite but a deeper historical look at our economic reality you wont see on any current news/media/entertainment show.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936&q=Money+Masters+site%3Avideo.google.com&total=354&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
its really funny how edward troy proposed to scrap nearly our entire way of life in order to “save” the planet. by doing so would increase our oil consumption, increase pollution to make all these new cars and deplete our natural resources building all these new solar panels, wind turbines.
“Yet this country does nothing regarding those issues because we have a culture based on the entitlement to waste, to be ignorant and to be proud to be American.”
thats you. look in the mirror, you are proposing the most wasteful thing in our modern history. throw away everything we have now that works perfectly to use inefficent technologies (solar and wind)
its astonishing to me how people rant about how we need to create all of our power from soar and wind.. then go on to say we need solar cars..etc. without a clue as to how solar works, how inefficient it is and how many panels you would need to be entirely self sufficient or to power a car.. on top of that if everyone had solar panels our power grid would be so overwhelmed we would be put back into the stone age.
just look at t boone pickens.. he just scrapped his entire wind farm in texas. was not economical and there was no grid to transport the power. At least he got a ton of great press and notoriety peddling the idea last fall, every day he was on the “news” for months, how many people reading here knew he scrapped it? i bet none.
You mean we would need to alter the grid for alternative power. Thanks for that Jonny. I was just about to throw a solar panel on my SUV and run it completely on solar power.
338 billion dollars which is mostly spent on education. That’s an outrage. We could of spent that on war or fencing ourselves in. How much more money will we waste on none “defense” budgets?
The end is near, we’re all going to die. Save us Frosty, save us. I’m glad that you’ve found meaning in your life through making up a crisis. At “current rates” your projection will always be wrong. Try looking at fertility rates and current trends for both US and Mexico. Our population would shrink without immigrants and Mexico is almost at the break even stage. So where are all the immigrant going to come from? Are Mexicans going to keep coming until Mexico is empty?
Nothing to do with race? So when do we get to see plans for that fence across the Canadian border?
Dearest info;
I realise that in your opinion this has nothing to do with race;
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
Now do correct me if I am wrong.
Dear nogood,
if we can accept that 2+2=4 comprehension may be a possibility;
The following proposals are not suggestions of first choice. These types of proposals are reactionary suggestions common to ALL disciplines with theoretical frontiers. Ideas from Project Plowshare to Communism to Thalidomide and DDT have been hatched and even brought to fruition with varying degrees of success. There is no necessity to begin the following possibilities.
• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation’s drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” — in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.
these are the published ideas of the person in charge of science policy in America RIGHT NOW.
Without reading the publication but having read a few publications, I state here and now that what you did was take (as usual for people like your self) material OUT OF CONTEXT in an effort to make this person seem unreasonable. If you want to be against Obama, just because that is what you want to do, I am not suggesting that you find a reason, but there are people who blog here who do have reasons for being against Obama and may not appreciate your dilution of their REASONS for dissent on a particular issue. This country has enough of this claptrap. A dittohead blog might be better for you.
its really funny how edward troy proposed to scrap nearly our entire way of life in order to “save” the planet. by doing so would increase our oil consumption, increase pollution to make all these new cars and deplete our natural resources building all these new solar panels, wind turbines.
–How dare you use anything but stirrups saddles and reins. How dare you use something besides an outhouse a bucket with holes for a shower. How dare you not spit on your floor. How dare you use lightbulbs, phones and this internet! How dare you! Oh pardon me I guess Americans have changed their habits and way of life. Dadgummit you mean EVOLVED!?
“Yet this country does nothing regarding those issues because we have a culture based on the entitlement to waste, to be ignorant and to be proud to be American.”
thats you. look in the mirror, you are proposing the most wasteful thing in our modern history. throw away everything we have now that works perfectly to use inefficent technologies (solar and wind)
–you are a probably hopeless blogger project. Get some education from college textbooks, before you publish silliness such as this.
its astonishing to me how people rant about how we need to create all of our power from soar and wind.. then go on to say we need solar cars..etc. without a clue as to how solar works, how inefficient it is and how many panels you would need to be entirely self sufficient or to power a car.. on top of that if everyone had solar panels our power grid would be so overwhelmed we would be put back into the stone age.
–I worked in the solar industry back in the early eighties until tax credits were removed. That spurred the US to get back on it’s knees, to give perfect lip service to your special friends in the middle east. I guess you are still waiting to be thanked by those friends who participated in 9-11 (I won’t bother to go into the extensive history of the organization they belonged to since I am sure YOU were surprised on that day — having paid close attention to national security issues like blue dresses and the like).
just look at t boone pickens.. he just scrapped his entire wind farm in texas. was not economical and there was no grid to transport the power. At least he got a ton of great press and notoriety peddling the idea last fall, every day he was on the “news” for months, how many people reading here knew he scrapped it? i bet none
–Just because you crawled out from under a rock and heard this “news,” doesn’t mean any of the rest us that blog here, were ever under that rock, or rocks of their own.
Hopefully you will have actual reasons, that are well researched or that you can anectdotally give a testimonial from your life experiences that is pertinent to helping this country evolve so it can thrive. So far, and obviously, what you write indicates very little exposure to sciences, economics and American history. I can listen to limbaugh and hannity for the research you provide.
To Edward
last time I checked “illegal mexican aliens” was not a race. but if, in your mind it is, then yes, I want them removed yesterday.
also Its so ironic that those that start cheerleading for global warming BS never say a word about Depleted Uranium
(The United Nations Human Rights Commission,[30] passed two motions[31] — the first in 1996[32] and the second in 1997.[33] They listed weapons of mass destruction, or weapons with indiscriminate effect, or of a nature to cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering and urged all states to curb the production and the spread of such weapons. Included in the list was weaponry containing depleted uranium.)
And on the ConMans show today he agreed with his guest that hospitals should not turn away illegals because this country is kind…..
Well Mr. ConMan, give me your phone number and I will give it to some illegals that want free airtime so they can run commercials for their illegal companies here in the valley….your a kind guy and we are a kind nation, you and your radio show can flip the bill. And no, it wont be just 1 commercial, how about 30-50% of your total airtime in a day, thats whats invading the hospitals that you and your guest are so warmly giving their time and energy away, without even having the courtesy of asking them.
And if you decline, then we know you are a hypocrit too.
What makes this immigration debate difficult is when some refuse to see beyond their noses it is not about “certain types” if you mean “white”, red, yellow, black, Jew, Muslim etc, for many/most of us it is pure and simple economics!!!
Simple economics!!! I do laugh in jest of course. For some SOS means help (some variant of save our souls) for others well it could be stuck on stupid. I have said this over and over and over and over and over again.
49. Edward Troy | May 22nd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Mr. McGarry,
I really don’t mind having my ideas attacked because for me the attacks offer a different perspective and an opportunity to learn. While you are under no obligation, if you have the desire to continue attacking me personally, you should do so face to face. You still don’t acknowlege the economic solution for immigration.
Chicken.
51. Edward Troy | May 27th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Building a fence does not change the supply of Labor willing to work for better compensation in the US (and at a rate less than what Americans legally have to be paid — even if there was parity with US wages in the US there would be downward pressure on wages because of the increase in supply). The fence, IDs, guards, vigilantes, moats and crocodiles will also not change the demand for that cheaper labor by the wealthy power elite in this country.
Adam Smith would state definitevely that this will create a black market. The way to remove this black market is to have Mexoco pay Mexicans equal pay for equal work in Mexico. I am not saying that I like the reality of that situation, I am just looking at it with as much objectivity as possible. Incidentally the same situation exists for the drug trade based on the demand in this country — the fact that it is illegal drives enourmous profits into substances that would otherwise be as cheap as dirt. Does anyone have any idea where some of those profits go??
4/17/2009 the demand for cheap labor.
Sue and Michael, neither of you have been pulled over for DWB — driving while black; ask my wife. She has experienced it, while I was driving, going on a dangerous mission to hike. None of my time taken for these experiences has ever been compensated.
The redundant refrain of xenophobic bigotry periodically emanating from Woolridge, is the reason there are the problems he is discussing. His cultural ideological demographic group has generally sought cheap labor they can then complain about as an issue to garner votes from the dank and vile of the Republican Party. Where were their standards of citizenship when the dikes were breached by Reagan? Votes from Marielito Cuban criminals can be counted just as easily as votes from Ph.D.s from China.
from 6/1/2009
Mc Garry is nothing more than a loudmouth jerk and he is apparently ready willing and able to hand off any a-kicking to his friends. He will not step in a ring, cage or on a mat, but he will continue to call you, me and others silly schoolyard names, since his arguments are too weak to defend. He used to be on Congames Wednesdays. I used to call in and ask why didn’t he look at multi variable solutions especially economic solutions to immigration. His answer was the same tired crap, ‘lets just build that fence’. I accused him of making a living off that issue, without really trying to solve the problem. He claimed that wasn’t the case.
from june 20th 2009
Nevertheless, this nation is in a state of decline, but within 30 years that can be reversed, through education and an environmentally sound economy. I am certain you have met vast multitudes, who feel an entitlement based on numerous demographics, the least of which is not being American.
In this thread no less.
What exactly is wrong with having Mexico raise its’ standards to at least a rough parity to that of the USA/Canada. You people just keep trying to violate the very fundamental rules of Adam Smith and all tenets of capitalism. Almost without exception, the immigration is driven by economic reasons.
This for me is a tiresome refrain. Just because some don’t accept the fact I have already addressed this from a supply and demand situation, comparative advantage and a lack of parity between economies doesn’t mean that I haven’t addressed the issue from an economic perspective. If you are more comfortable discussing and repeating the mental mush of economic symptoms
instead of the economic fundamentals that generate the problem — go ahead, intellectual irrelevance is your just reward and the legions of stooges that think SPENDING HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS
To all you college educated global warming cheerleaders….ohh, I meant “climate change” cheerleaders.
The environmental impact of solar panel production is environmentally much more dangerous than global warming. To manufacture solar panels requires polysilicon. In making this product a byproduct is produced, a white substance called silicone-tetrachloride, an extremely toxic chemical, which is an environmental hazard. Since treatment of silicone-tetrachloride is very expensive it is usually dumped, causing blighted areas in which no plant will grow and any animal touching it will become ill or die.
The supposed savings made possible through the use of solar panels or bird swatters is nothing but another bunch of lies. I helped a friend build a totally independent “green” house in New Hampshire. Mostly on solar, against my recommendation, and one wind turbine. The property had a stream and I recommended hydroelectric, but he was sold on solar and wind. To make a long story short once everything was operative we had an installation cost of just over $27,000 for a 2,400 sq. ft house. Based on average utility costs in New Hampshire it would take 19.56 years to break even, but the batteries had a life of only ten years and cost $8,000; this was the most losing proposition that I have ever been involved in.
Wind turbines are simply not a viable means of producing electricity for many reasons. The largest producer in the world is Vestas in the UK; they just closed their Isle of Wright plant making 700 employees redundant, due to slumping demand. Their chief engineer, Ditlev Engel, stated that without huge government subsidies, which are hard to come by in a depressed economy, there is simply no market for wind turbines. As you can see this all leads us to only one direction — government interference in the energy production market distorts the economy and produces false information, resulting in a multitude of problems in the entire economy.
So-called “Cap and Trade” however is probably the dumbest of all the proposals pushed by the Green cult. Considering that Ozone Al Gore has a company in New York as well as London that trades carbon emission credits, one comes to a rapid understanding of where all this BS comes from. If this legislation were enacted the net result would be that the average American homeowner would find his electric energy bill increasing by over $ 3,100 per year. I don’t know about you but I’m opposed big time.
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More on DU and its insane that every time Mr. ConMan hears about DU, he always says, whats that? or explain that?
Why dont you do some research Mr. ConMan, and then why dont you do a little thing called TALK ABOUT IT ON YOUR SHOW…
but naw, you would rather push global warming and taxing the people. Its so sick that those who push global warming say nothing on the millions of tons we have dumped all over the world because of some cave dwellers
shamefull, pathetic and insane…..
Horror Of US Depleted
Uranium In Iraq Threatens World
American Use Of DU is “A crime against humanity which may, in
the eyes of historians, rank with the worst atrocities of all time.”
US Iraq Military Vets “are on DU death row, waiting to die.”
By James Denver
“I’m horrified. The people out there – the Iraqis, the media and the troops – risk the most appalling ill health. And the radiation from depleted uranium can travel literally anywhere. It’s going to destroy the lives of thousands of children, all over the world. We all know how far radiation can travel. Radiation from Chernobyl reached Wales and in Britain you sometimes get red dust from the Sahara on your car.”
The speaker is not some alarmist doom-sayer. He is Dr. Chris Busby, the British radiation expert, Fellow of the University of Liverpool in the Faculty of Medicine and UK representative on the European Committee on Radiation Risk, talking about the best-kept secret of this war: the fact that, by illegally using hundreds of tons of depleted uranium (DU) against Iraq, Britain and America have gravely endangered not only the Iraqis but the whole world.
For these weapons have released deadly, carcinogenic and mutagenic, radioactive particles in such abundance that-whipped up by sandstorms and carried on trade winds – there is no corner of the globe they cannot penetrate-including Britain. For the wind has no boundaries and time is on their side: the radioactivity persists for over 4,500,000,000 years and can cause cancer, leukemia, brain damage, kidney failure, and extreme birth defects – killing millions of every age for centuries to come. A crime against humanity which may, in the eyes of historians, rank with the worst atrocities of all time.
These weapons have released deadly, carcinogenic and mutagenic, radioactive particles in such abundance that there is no corner of the globe they cannot penetrate – including Britain. Yet, officially, no crime has been committed. For this story is a dirty story in which the facts have been concealed from those who needed them most. It is also a story we need to know if the people of Iraq are to get the medical care they desperately need, and if our troops, returning from Iraq, are not to suffer as terribly as the veterans of other conflicts in which depleted uranium was used.
A Dirty Tyson
‘Depleted’ uranium is in many ways a misnomer. For ‘depleted’ sounds weak. The only weak thing about depleted uranium is its price. It is dirt cheap, toxic, waste from nuclear power plants and bomb production. However, uranium is one of earth’s heaviest elements and DU packs a Tyson’s punch, smashing through tanks, buildings and bunkers with equal ease, spontaneously catching fire as it does so, and burning people alive. ‘Crispy critters’ is what US servicemen call those unfortunate enough to be close. And, when John Pilger encountered children killed at a greater distance he wrote: “The children’s skin had folded back, like parchment, revealing veins and burnt flesh that seeped blood, while the eyes, intact, stared straight ahead. I vomited.” (Daily Mirror)
The millions of radioactive uranium oxide particles released when it burns can kill just as surely, but far more terribly. They can even be so tiny they pass through a gas mask, making protection against them impossible. Yet, small is not beautiful. For these invisible killers indiscriminately attack men, women, children and even babies in the womb-and do the gravest harm of all to children and unborn babies.
A Terrible Legacy
Doctors in Iraq have estimated that birth defects have increased by 2-6 times, and 3-12 times as many children have developed cancer and leukaemia since 1991. Moreover, a report published in The Lancet in 1998 said that as many as 500 children a day are dying from these sequels to war and sanctions and that the death rate for Iraqi children under 5 years of age increased from 23 per 1000 in 1989 to 166 per thousand in 1993. Overall, cases of lymphoblastic leukemia more than quadrupled with other cancers also increasing ‘at an alarming rate’. In men, lung, bladder, bronchus, skin, and stomach cancers showed the highest increase. In women, the highest increases were in breast and bladder cancer, and non-Hodgkin lymphoma.1
On hearing that DU had been used in the Gulf in 1991, the UK Atomic Energy Authority sent the Ministry of Defense a special report on the potential damage to health and the environment. It said that it could cause half a million additional cancer deaths in Iraq over 10 years. In that war the authorities only admitted to using 320 tons of DU-although the Dutch charity LAKA estimates the true figure is closer to 800 tons. Many times that may have been spread across Iraq by this year’s war. The devastating damage all this DU will do to the health and fertility of the people of Iraq now, and for generations to come, is beyond imagining.
The radioactivity persists for over 4,500,000,000 years killing millions of every age for centuries to come. This is a crime against humanity which may rank with the worst atrocities of all time.
We must also count the numberless thousands of miscarried babies. Nobody knows how many Iraqis have died in the womb since DU contaminated their world. But it is suggested that troops who were only exposed to DU for the brief period of the war were still excreting uranium in their semen 8 years later and some had 100 times the so-called ‘safe limit’ of uranium in their urine. The lack of government interest in the plight of veterans of the 1991 war is reflected in a lack of academic research on the impact of DU but informal research has found a high incidence of birth defects in their children and that the wives of men who served in Iraq have three times more miscarriages than the wives of servicemen who did not go there.
Since DU darkened the land Iraq has seen birth defects which would break a heart of stone: babies with terribly foreshortened limbs, with their intestines outside their bodies, with huge bulging tumors where their eyes should be, or with a single eye-like Cyclops, or without eyes, or without limbs, and even without heads. Significantly, some of the defects are almost unknown outside textbooks showing the babies born near A-bomb test sites in the Pacific.
Doctors report that many women no longer say ‘Is it a girl or a boy?’ but simply, ‘Is it normal, doctor?’ Moreover this terrible legacy will not end. The genes of their parents may have been damaged for ever, and the damaging DU dust is ever-present.
Blue on Blue
What the governments of America and Britain have done to the people of Iraq they have also done to their own soldiers, in both wars. And they have done it knowingly. For the battlefields have been thick with DU and soldiers have had to enter areas heavily contaminated by bombing. Moreover, their bodies have not only been assaulted by DU but also by a vaccination regime which violated normal protocols, experimental vaccines, nerve agent pills, and organophosphate pesticides in their tents. Yet, though the hazards of DU were known, British and American troops were not warned of its dangers. Nor were they given thorough medical checks on their return-even though identifying it quickly might have made it possible to remove some of it from their body. Then, when a growing number became seriously ill, and should have been sent to top experts in radiation damage and neurotoxins, many were sent to a psychiatrist.
Over 200,000 US troops who returned from the 1991 war are now invalided out with ailments officially attributed to service in Iraq-that’s 1 in 3. In contrast, the British government’s failure to fully assess the health of returning troops, or to monitor their health, means no one even knows how many have died or become gravely ill since their return. However, Gulf veterans’ associations say that, of 40,000 or so fighting fit men and women who saw active service, at least 572 have died prematurely since coming home and 5000 may be ill. An alarming number are thought to have taken their own lives, unable to bear the torment of the innumerable ailments which have combined to take away their career, their sexuality, their ability to have normal children, and even their ability to breathe or walk normally. As one veteran puts it, they are ‘on DU death row, waiting to die’.
Whatever other factors there may be, some of their illnesses are strikingly similar to those of Iraqis exposed to DU dust. For example, soldiers have also fathered children without eyes. And, in a group of eight servicemen whose babies lack eyes seven are known to have been directly exposed to DU dust.
They too have fathered children with stunted arms, and rare abnormalities classically associated with radiation damage. They too seem prone to cancer and leukemia. Tellingly, so are EU soldiers who served as peacekeepers in the Balkans, where DU was also used. Indeed their leukemia rate has been so high that several EU governments have protested at the use of DU.
The Vital Evidence
Despite all that evidence of the harm done by DU, governments on both sides of the Atlantic have repeatedly claimed that as it emits only ‘low level’ radiation DU is harmless. Award-winning scientist, Dr. Rosalie Bertell who has led UN medical commissions, has studied ‘low-level’ radiation for 30 years. 2 She has found that uranium oxide particles have more than enough power to harm cells, and describes their pulses of radiation as hitting surrounding cells ‘like flashes of lightning’ again and again in a single second.2 Like many scientists worldwide who have studied this type of radiation, she has found that such ‘lightning strikes’ can damage DNA and cause cell mutations which lead to cancer.
Moreover, these particles can be taken up by body fluids and travel through the body, damaging more than one organ. To compound all that, Dr. Bertell has found that this particular type of radiation can cause the body’s communication systems to break down, leading to malfunctions in many vital organs of the body and to many medical problems. A striking fact, since many veterans of the first Gulf war suffer from innumerable, seemingly unrelated, ailments.
In addition, recent research by Eric Wright, Professor of Experimental Haematology at Dundee University, and others, have shown two ways in which such radiation can do far more damage than has been thought. The first is that a cell which seems unharmed by radiation can produce cells with diverse mutations several cell generations later. (And mutations are at the root of cancer and birth defects.) This ‘radiation-induced genomic instability’ is compounded by ‘the bystander effect’ by which cells mutate in unison with others which have been damaged by radiation-rather as birds swoop and turn in unison. Put together, these two mechanisms can greatly increase the damage done by a single source of radiation, such as a DU particle. Moreover, it is now clear that there are marked genetic differences in the way individuals respond to radiation-with some being far more likely to develop cancer than others. So the fact that some veterans of the first Gulf war seem relatively unharmed by their exposure to DU in no way proves that DU did not damage others.
The Price of Truth
That the evidence from Iraq and from our troops, and the research findings of such experts, have been ignored may be no accident. A US report, leaked in late 1995, allegedly says, ‘The potential for health effects from DU exposure is real; however it must be viewed in perspective… the financial implications of long-term disability payments and healthcare costs would be excessive.’3
Clearly, with hundreds of thousands gravely ill in Iraq and at least a quarter of a million UK and US troops seriously ill, huge disability claims might be made not only against the governments of Britain and America if the harm done by DU were acknowledged. There might also be huge claims against companies making DU weapons and some of their directors are said to be extremely close to the White House. How close they are to Downing Street is a matter for speculation, but arms sales makes a considerable contribution to British trade. So the massive whitewashing of DU over the past 12 years, and the way that governments have failed to test returning troops, seemed to disbelieve them, and washed their hands of them, may be purely to save money.
The possibility that financial considerations have led the governments of Britain and America to cynically avoid taking responsibility for the harm they have done not only to the people of Iraq but to their own troops may seem outlandish. Yet DU weapons weren’t used by the other side and no other explanation fits the evidence. For, in the days before Britain and America first used DU in war its hazards were no secret.4 One American study in 1990 said DU was ‘linked to cancer when exposures are internal, [and to] chemical toxicity-causing kidney damage’. While another openly warned that exposure to these particles under battlefield conditions could lead to cancers of the lung and bone, kidney damage, non-malignant lung disease, neuro-cognitive disorders, chromosomal damage and birth defects.5
A Culture of Denial
In 1996 and 1997 UN Human Rights Tribunals condemned DU weapons for illegally breaking the Geneva Convention and classed them as ‘weapons of mass destruction’ ‘incompatible with international humanitarian and human rights law’. Since then, following leukemia in European peacekeeping troops in the Balkans and Afghanistan (where DU was also used), the EU has twice called for DU weapons to be banned.
Yet, far from banning DU, America and Britain stepped up their denials of the harm from this radioactive dust as more and more troops from the first Gulf war and from action and peacekeeping in the Balkans and Afghanistan have become seriously ill. This is no coincidence. In 1997, while citing experiments, by others, in which 84 percent of dogs exposed to inhaled uranium died of cancer of the lungs, Dr. Asaf Durakovic, then Professor of Radiology and Nuclear Medicine at Georgetown University in Washington was quoted as saying, ‘The [US government's] Veterans Administration asked me to lie about the risks of incorporating depleted uranium in the human body.’ He concluded, ‘uranium does cause cancer, uranium does cause mutation, and uranium does kill. If we continue with the irresponsible contamination of the biosphere, and denial of the fact that human life is endangered by the deadly isotope uranium, then we are doing disservice to ourselves, disservice to the truth, disservice to God and to all generations who follow.’ Not what the authorities wanted to hear and his research was suddenly blocked.
During 12 years of ever-growing British whitewash the authorities have abolished military hospitals, where there could have been specialized research on the effects of DU and where expertise in treating DU victims could have built up. And, not content with the insult of suggesting the gravely disabling symptoms of Gulf veterans are imaginary they have refused full pensions to many. For, despite all the evidence to the contrary, the current House of Commons briefing paper on DU hazards says ‘it is judged that any radiation effects from possible exposures are extremely unlikely to be a contributory factor to the illnesses currently being experienced by some Gulf war veterans.’ Note how over a quarter of a million sick and dying US and UK vets are called ‘some’.
The Way Ahead
Britain and America not only used DU in this year’s Iraq war, they dramatically increased its use-from a minimum of 320 tons in the previous war to at minimum of 1500 tons in this one. And this time the use of DU wasn’t limited to anti-tank weapons-as it had largely been in the previous Gulf war-but was extended to the guided missiles, large bunker busters and big 2000-pound bombs used in Iraq’s cities. This means that Iraq’s cities have been blanketed in lethal particles-any one of which can cause cancer or deform a child. In addition, the use of DU in huge bombs which throw the deadly particles higher and wider in huge plumes of smoke means that billions of deadly particles have been carried high into the air-again and again and again as the bombs rained down-ready to be swept worldwide by the winds.
The Royal Society has suggested the solution is massive decontamination in Iraq. That could only scratch the surface. For decontamination is hugely expensive and, though it may reduce the risks in some of the worst areas, it cannot fully remove them. For DU is too widespread on land and water. How do you clean up every nook and cranny of a city the size of Baghdad? How can they decontaminate a whole country in which microscopic particles, which cannot be detected with a normal geiger counter, are spread from border to border? And how can they clean up all the countries downwind of Iraq-and, indeed, the world?
So there are only two things we can do to mitigate this crime against humanity. The first is to provide the best possible medical care for the people of Iraq, for our returning troops and for those who served in the last Gulf war and, through that, minimize their suffering. The second is to relegate war, and the production and sale of weapons, to the scrap heap of history-along with slavery and genocide. Then, and only then, will this crime against humanity be expunged, and the tragic deaths from this war truly bring freedom to the people of Iraq, and of the world.
References
1. The Lancet volume 351, issue 9103, 28 February 1998.
2. Rosalie Bertell’s book Planet Earth the Latest Weapon of War was reviewed in Caduceus issue 51, page 28.
3. http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/du_ii/du_ii_tabl1
. htm#TAB L_Research Report Summaries
4. http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/02.01/020117moret.htm
The secret official memorandum to Brigadier General L.R.Groves from Drs Conant, Compton and Urey of War Department Manhattan district dated October 1943 is available at the website http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2003/Leuren-Moret-Gen-Grove s21feb03.htm
5. http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/du_iitab11.
htm#tab L_research report summaries
Further information
The Low Level Radiation Campaign hopes to be able to arrange a limited number of private urine tests for those returning from the latest Gulf war. It can be contacted at: The Knoll, Montpelier Park, Llandrindod Wells, LD1 5LW. 01597 824771. Web: http://www.llrc.org
James Denver writes and broadcasts internationally on science and technology.
wow yet again another mouse problem!
to build a fence is better than having Mexico simply be responsible’ please continue. Just to be clear again, well for some this may never be clear, so let me rephrase that to state again; even if this country did everything I suggested (I duly note that not one suggestion was made by the critics, except going backwards to a bankrupt social mode that ignores the probable necessity of the evolution of the “American Way”) that is, read carefully; NO EXCUSE FOR NOT LOOKING FOR WAYS OF CONTROLLING POPULATION. Assuming comprehension and literacy may be a stretch here. The extreme positions of a publication outlining the reactionary remedies for failure to act on a plethora of possibilities to mitigate this situation is playing the role of a fool. To sit back and accuse me of not seeing this from an economic perspective, leaves me utterly disgusted, realizing the possibility of “constructive dialog” is not a probability.
later
this how this sentence should have read;
Publishing and repeating the extreme positions of a publication outlining the reactionary remedies for failure to act on a plethora of possibilities to mitigate this situation is playing the role of a fool.
It is at the same level as the photo frame from a video “showing Obama was looking at a 16 year olds rear end” and offer that crap as a truth. Of course in the ditto head world of those whose research is in depth listening to Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter and reading Malkin and drudge earned their Piled higher & Deeper degree.
(The United Nations Human Rights Commission,[30] passed two motions[31] — the first in 1996[32] and the second in 1997.[33] They listed weapons of mass destruction, or weapons with indiscriminate effect, or of a nature to cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering and urged all states to curb the production and the spread of such weapons. Included in the list was weaponry containing depleted uranium.)
So info you are against the use of depleted (U-238) bullets and armour piercing ordnance the same as me?? You write like an old friend.
last time I checked “illegal mexican aliens” was not a race. but if, in your mind it is, then yes, I want them removed yesterday.
Part of the vanguard of progressives eh, politically correct are we now?
I am part of the human race and race from me is an aknowlegement of the important belief that some have in this social construct so they can create demographics to oppress. To sum up; The only reason
I use it or refer to race, is because exceedingly few appear to be able think out side of their assigned identities — including race. Just a part of dummin’ down for the masses.
I am ready for nogood to claim people like me proposed perpetual motion cars to save energy.
I still want to wield my Colorado born privilege by telling everyone (including Frosty) to go back to where you came from. If people can’t accept immigrants why should we locals accept you.
Why can’t people see that immigration is not a problem but instead a cause?
What are people mad at when it comes to immigrants taking jobs? Are you mad that immigrants are willing to work harder for less money?
Their’s not enough jobs because we don’t produce enough. If economies were closer in value we would be forced to become a producing country or fall into a real depression. By helping other economies become self-sufficient and by setting goals for ourselves like becoming green, we will all profit. Becoming greener shouldn’t be propelled out of fear, but instead it should become a goal of morality and economics. I don’t believe in governments because I want everyone making decisions with their own judgment. Everyone can see the problem our planet faces and no one needs to be forced to make good decisions. Stopping mass immigration and becoming greener are task that each of us can contribute too without the fear or hate. We should look the problems causing immigration without the bias of resentment. The environmental divisions are caused through fear and selfishness, but wouldn’t we all profit from a well maintained planet. We shouldn’t need the motivations of doomsday prediction to care enough to evolve our standards and practices. We can’t be so pessimistic to say everything is flawed so their’s no point in trying. This planet is all of ours equally. The best way to solve many immigration and environmental problems is through helping our brothers (the world) out.
“The best way to solve many immigration and environmental problems is through helping our brothers (the world) out.”
Yes, indeed, lets start with helping our brothers in California first.
In California, officials estimate that the state’s 2.7 million illegal residents add $4 billion to $6 billion in costs to the state’s roughly $105 billion budget, primarily for schools, prisons and health care.
Nathan, can I ask what you do for a living? and what are you doing for the poor people in Mexico and other third world countries.
Have you joined the peace coalition or any other anti-war movement here in the valley?
Nathan,
your entire response is worth reading several times. It is your best response, that I have read and in the heights with the best on this blog I have read in several years. Your faith is worthy.
Decisions made in fear can be irrational. Those who are willfully ignorant, who pretend that there is no problem with global warming/peak oil such as nogood and those that refuse to accept economic disparity as THE reason driving immigration legal and illegal are part of a dangerous element that seems to be shared by the ignoranti — Palinites, Christianites (those who attend church full of paranoia, hate, and empty prayers, empty in action and empty of faith) and those who are literate as a function — not for education. This is pretty much exclusive to America, among industrialized nations. But in divided tribal/ethnic/religious/racially divided countries, where those types of stupidly accepted demographic constructs exist, there appears to be a commonality.
Native Americans, and the Romans were able to raise people to be in their cultures, regardless of the demographic constructs, so I have to believe we can do it too.
Thanks Ed
infowars.com,
You can ask me anything you want; but as to the question of what kind of work I do, I attempt to run a HVAC company. I’m actually starting an employment search tomorrow for a supplementary income. As to your question aimed at whether my actions back up my words of charity, the answer is no. I am a hypocrite in many ways but I don’t consider this to be one of them. I have not found my calling in third world countries or in the environment. Right now I look at the United States as the places that needs the most help. I am still learning in my youth but I see so much ignorance in the day-to-day of American ideology. I don’t participate in rallies or club’s because I’m a true believer in individuality. I don’t need to waste my time adding another scream to a protest when I believe the only righteous change comes willingly. Passively teaching is my plan of action. I accept my “illegal” brothers equally and give them their due respect as my third world advocacy. Those who talk about the criminality of immigration are the same who have never had a conversation with an “illegal”. People throw problems under the umbrella of immigrants to have something to aim at. Ed has talked intensively about this, so I won’t. I’m not anti-anything including war. I respect the true freedom that God gave us that allows us to take another persons life. I use my freedom to choose not to kill because I listened to the same advise each of has coming from our hearts.
“Passively teaching is my plan of action.”
well Nathan, that is doing somethng. And I respect that.
I hope that you respect the fact that I disagree with everything youve ever posted here.
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Edward, you sure do make a LOT of assumptions about people you dont know. I stated that i thought it was pretty ridiculous that you suggest throwing away perfectly good infrastructure, vehicles etc. to “clean up” the world like you suggested. in order for your idea to work we would need to double or triple the mining and drilling for oil in order to build new cars, mine copper for a new grid and get the oil to support every aspect of changing society. the increase in use of natural resources would be disastrous to the environment..
by responding to that, you assumed that i was republican, you assumed that i listen to right wing freakshow radio, you assumed that i didnt own solar panels (i have 10 205 watt panels), you assumed that i dont use wind power (i have built savonius turbines from scrap/found materials to heat my greenhouse) you assumed that i dont grow 50%+ of my own food, you assumed that i dont drive an 8 year old car that gets 50+ mpg you assume that i dont have an electric bike that i use for 30+% of my transportation, and that is just a start.
I could really care less what other people do. this world is about survival of the fittest, it has always been and will always be.. if people dont want to save money to someday achieve the goal of becoming self sufficient that’s fine with me, let them put the 50″ plasma on the credit card so they can watch dancing with the stars and american idol. let them suffer the consequences of it in 5-10 years.. it will probably be better for the planet without them, just dont stick me with the welfare bill.
I do believe that humans are destroying the earth and it needs to stop. i do not believe that humans are causing global warming, the data from NOAA just does not support that theory.. you can cite all the studies that you want, the underlying data does not support it. If you believe in global warming you must know what the perfect temperature is for earth and should be able to provide proof that the earth has never had massive temperature swings before humans existed (i really hope that you believe that the earth has existed for longer than humans). i do believe that we are well past peak oil. I also believe that there is a difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration. i am all for legal immigration and i would deport every single illegal today to increase legal immigration in a heartbeat. you seem to think (from what you write) that legal and illegal immigrants are the same thing.
in basically every post that you write, you make absurd assumptions about the people you are arguing with. That is one of the most reprehensible, unintelligent things someone can do in my opnion.
its really funny how edward troy proposed to scrap nearly our entire way of life in order to “save” the planet. by doing so would increase our oil consumption (nonsense),
increase pollution to make all these new cars
–(what go without the car? OK as I wrote before ride bicycles your electric bike is still connected to a grid which may be fossil fuel powered. The cars I suggest building would be replacement vehicles and not part of your effort to make something look shocking by having people think a mass scrapping should happen)
and deplete our natural resources building all these new solar panels, wind turbines.
–(getting out of the war business and recycling the scrap, abundant in landfills and in old grid materials should certainly mitigate the use of resources. The statement is ridiculous, also from the perspective of ANY ECONOMY. Any type of production based, value added, consumer based economy will use natural resources. What you fail to differentiate between is renewable resources and non-renewable resources. If you don’t support the throw it away there is more at the store way of life, then say it and cut the equivocation.)
its really funny how edward troy proposed to scrap nearly our entire way of life in order to “save” the planet.
in basically every post that you write, you make absurd assumptions about the people you are arguing with. That is one of the most reprehensible, unintelligent things someone can do in my opnion.
– Clearly this is reprehensible, unintelligent and disingenuous. Scrap our entire way of life? — according to you –
by responding to that, you assumed that i was republican, you assumed that i listen to right wing freakshow radio, you assumed that i didnt own solar panels (i have 10 205 watt panels), you assumed that i dont use wind power (i have built savonius turbines from scrap/found materials to heat my greenhouse) you assumed that i dont grow 50%+ of my own food, you assumed that i dont drive an 8 year old car that gets 50+ mpg you assume that i dont have an electric bike that i use for 30+% of my transportation, and that is just a start.
– You have already scrapped our entire way of life, OK 50%. Your green house needs heating??
you seem to think (from what you write) that legal and illegal immigrants are the same thing.
– How completely silly, obviously from a LEGAL perspective, the difference is whether they are legal or not. What was meant, and this is what you are trying to manipulate into some Ed Troy supports illegals fictional crap (do correct me if I am wrong), is the type of economic disparity between the USA/Canada and Mexico, is driving immigration, whether it is legal or not. For legal reasons, I am not a proponent of illegal immigration, more importantly I do not support the economic conditions, that are driving most of the immigration. H1Bs? Why aren’t we educating our citizens to reduce the “need?”
I do believe that humans are destroying the earth and it needs to stop. –(I agree) i do not believe that humans are causing global warming, the data from NOAA just does not support that theory.. you can cite all the studies that you want, the underlying data does not support it.
If you believe in global warming you must know what the perfect temperature is for earth and should be able to provide proof that the earth has never had massive temperature swings before humans existed (i really hope that you believe that the earth has existed for longer than humans).
The earth has had many temperature, atmospheric composition and marine chemistry fluctuations. Paleo-climates have been exceptionally hot, certainly the birth of earth was warm as was the collision that produced the moon, it was also probably warm after the K-T boundary a million years into the Tertiary (no not immediately after the K-T). Climates have been extremely cold, possibly including extreme glaciation in pre Ediacaran times, lesser glaciations in late Ordovician and Carboniferous times. These fluctuations, have in the past, been blamed for catastrophic extinctions of ecosystems composed of millions? of species. The dilemma you and others must answer; is the oxidation of fossil fuels adding CO2 to the atmosphere and if so would one of the extreme paleo-climates be beneficial to homo-sapsucker and the ecosystems we live in?
Just because paleo-climates were extreme and sometimes devastating to life is no reason for example to try to duplicate them by say slamming an asteroid into the earth — just because it happenned before.
BTW — this ASSUMES that you acknowledge that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
If this assumption is reprehensible and unintelligent I am sure I will find out.
yours truly,
ECT